Posts by Pete Zahut

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Relationship Between the JWs and Brooklyn Coming to an End

by betterdaze in

the 107-year relationship between the jehovah’s witnesses and brooklyn is coming to an endby terence cullen sept. 21, 2016, 9:45 a.m.for jehovah’s witnesses, brooklyn heights was until recently the equivalent of vatican city for catholics.

brooklyn—“the borough of churches”—arguably has no congregation with a more noticeable presence than the witnesses.

the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, the governing body of the jehovah’s witnesses, built its headquarters at 25-30 columbia heights, and it is there to greet any visitor driving over the brooklyn bridge.

Pete Zahut

Most of the attraction for JW's to visit Bethel was because after you were done with the tour, you had all of New York at your disposal. Now, a visit to Bethel will entail staying in a one horse town located miles from nowhere. I suspect the amount of JW's streaming to see Bethel will slow down drastically.

The comment about "having our heads held high" smacks of martyrdom and makes it sound as if they thought they were the local Pariahs there in Brooklyn. In actuality, they were the ones who excluded themselves and rejected the community with the scathing articles published in their literature.

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When you were fully in, would you lie about how loving your congregation was?

by TTWSYF in

not long ago my elder brother got very sick.

he was hospitalized for a few weeks and his jw wife and children were at his side often.

also, his non jw family was also bedside with him, siblings and parents.. his recollection involves asking us "don't you remember all the jws that came visiting me when i was sick?".

Pete Zahut

I didn't lie about it but because of my JW programmed mind, I was definitely looking at the normal kindnesses shown among the Congregation members, as proof that there was real Love and Truth there. After one breaks free of their hold, one is able to see how JW's tend to compare themselves to the worst examples in the world as proof that they are the chosen ones. They paint everyone in the outside world with the same broad judgmental brush. After a time, it's easy to start seeing the world from that perspective and turn a blind eye to all those folks out there who are decent, good and are pleasing to God (if he actually exists).

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Hidden message in JW bunker video?

by Dunedain in

so, i was speaking with a relative recently, who is "in" the borg, but is completely aware of the terrible hypocrisy from the gb down.

he is not in the box, and its great to be able to have a realistic, and logical discussion about the current state of the org.. we started discussing, specifically, about that bunker video that was released in december.

how it is being played at all the conventions.

Pete Zahut

"It reminds me of the story, the boy who cried wolf. Same thing WT has been doing for years, just this time they put it in video form."

I agree but I think if this line of thought was used on a JW, they'd remind you that in the story," the wolf " (Armageddon) eventually did show up.

One could counter that by saying "yes, the wolf did show up but thanks to the previous false warnings, otherwise responsible people stopped taking the boy (the G.B) seriously and were caught off guard. In a sense, the boy (G.B.) was responsible for the deadly outcome of this particular predicament .

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RIP dad, who introduced me to this fairytail of everlastin life and paradise :(

by Frezia in

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less than 5 hours ago my great dad fell asleep the last time :( still in a bit of a shock and sad that i will not see him again...i promised myself that once he is here no more, i will somehow make my move out of this organisation who kept us all captive believing in a fantasy of an everlasting life :( i am in a tricky situation, since raised as jw, still in, married to an active jw, and pretty sure that all in my social and family circle will turn their backs on me if i finally say goodbye to a fairytail ;(.

Pete Zahut

Sorry to hear about your Dad's passing. A bit of our own light goes out when we loose our Fathers.

One foot in front of the other....step by step until the passage of time and changing circumstances bring you to a place where you can decide what is to be done (if anything) about your JW situation. Allow yourself to grieve and come to grips with your loss before worrying about what to do next....there is no hurry.

-Pete

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Oh the irony! The elder, a car accident, and me....

by stuckinarut2 in

oh this is just worth sharing!.

so , as many know, it has been two years since i have attended any meetings, conventions, etc....nothing...cold turkey.. the hassles and problems the elders threw our way were monumental....so many details i could share, but suffice it to say, we stood firm and kept our dignity and poise and reminded them of "appropriate boundaries ".

one elder in particular has since spared no effort in ensuring that malicious gossip and slander has been spread so that witnesses have avoided us like the plague!.

Pete Zahut

"But it did make me wonder whether he feels bad for maligning my name or spreading gossip for two years?"

By your decency and without saying a word, you made him experience what it says at Proverbs 25:21,22.

21. If your enemy is hungry, give him food to eat; And if he is thirsty, give him water to drink; 22 For you will heap burning coals on his head and the Lord will reward you.

If these folks have even a shred of decency, they'll be thinking about their past actions toward you and hopefully others he's treated in a similar way

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Formatting issues

by bikerchic in

how do i turn off the formatting when i use the quote button?.

when i want to start a new paragraph and can't get out of the quote section?.

that made it worse, help!

Pete Zahut

The easiest way is to first type out or past everything you want to say then go back and highlight what you want to be quoted and then hit the quote button.

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Two Brothers Living Together - Never Dated Girls...

by pale.emperor in

in my old congregation there are two brothers (non related) who are in the early 30s.

they've never dated girls.

they're "best friends".

Pete Zahut

What does that sound like to you? - in the words of Seinfeld "not that there's anything wrong with that" -

Nobody's sayin' these guys are gay (not that there's anything wrong with that) but odds are, if Lot (from the bible) opened his front door and threw his daughters out to them, the girls would be completely safe.

Seriously though, it's got to be more common than you'd think. If it's true, just think how messed up it must be for these guys (and others) to have to live that way and the struggle to reconcile the reality of who they are, within the confines of a rigid and condemning group of people.

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Is It Really All That Surprising that Kevin Didn't Go Into the Bunker?

by Wild_Thing in

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friends

just look at his history!

w00 8/15 pp.

8-11 - the watchtower—2000: "kevin needed an additional $900, so he decided to sell his 16 two-year-old pigeons.

Pete Zahut

Perhaps it's for the best that he didn't join the others in the bunker since

1 Cor 5:6 says " Do you not know, a little Kevin ferments the whole lump?"

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Major congregational quake in Southern California

by Hecce in

this notice is not official yet and it should be confidential until released thru the proper channels.

a friend of mine told me about a huge elders meeting in southern california.

the subject was the relocation and dissolution of some congregations; it seems that this is the result of some project that has been going on for some time and is going to be implemented right now.. please let me know if this is happening all over the country?.

Pete Zahut

Those who love the martyr aspect of being a good JW will feel especially proud and virtuous by traveling 30 miles one way to the meeting.

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DEATH: How have you prepared? Funeral, cremation, donate body to Science?

by TerryWalstrom in

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well, hell!.

i had dizzy spells and near-fainting and nausea for a few days, so why wouldn't i start thinking about death, ya know?.

am i just very lax in my responsibilities in having no plans at all?isn't that irresponsible?

Pete Zahut

You can get cremation for about $750 at places like this. They even sell donated cemetery plots.

http://peoplesmemorial.org/